[KBarterCZ]

Hello,

First of all, small question about "licence". I've read about Dodgeball and I'd like to make a tfdb_ map for some servers, so first question is easy:

What to use? TFDB_? Is this "free"?

If tfdb_ is ok, then I want to ask you for some kind of how-to or documentation for used entities. I've decompiled tfdb_float_a2 map to reverse-engineer how the map works and I copied some entities which seems to work, but not sure. The problem is entity connection, what the entity must have and what not, because its really complex for me and you have better experience than I. I've created some "stock" maps, but TFDB is new for me.

So, What I have to use? How it should be set-up?

I know this could be bad question on bad place, I looked for tfdb on whole internet but wasn't able to find relevant information. Problem is its TFDB so I presume it has "standartised" settings which are used most TFDB servers. I'm just map-maker.

Here is small list of entities I copied and researched. I've removed light_enviroment, shadow_controler (or something) and env_cubemap cos I don't thing its crucial. It seems like general entities.

List of entities I copied to my map:
info_target (2x) - its named rocket_spawn_red / blue - rockets are spawning here
tf_gamerules - it seems this entity stops dodgeball type game when any team wins
point_servercommand - its named "dodgeball_commands" and it seems most rules are listed here. For me personally, its complex. I dont know what does what and how it should be set up
logic_auto - same as point_servercommand
tf_logic_arena - this enables dodgeball AFAIK
team_round_timer - sudden death?
game_text (2x) - This should be easy, shows text on screen? It has no inputs / outputs...
game_round_win - disables dodgeball, again, sudden death?
game_end - this entity should finish the map or round...


Thanks in Advance! :)

[yellowblood]

Originally Posted by KBarterCZ Hello, First of all, small question about "licence". I've read about Dodgeball and I'd like to make a tfdb_ map for some servers, so first question is easy: What to use? TFDB_? Is this "free"? If tfdb_ is ok, then I want to ask you for some kind of how-to or documentation for used entities. I've decompiled tfdb_float_a2 map to reverse-engineer how the map works and I copied some entities which seems to work, but not sure. The problem is entity connection, what the entity must have and what not, because its really complex for me and you have better experience than I. I've created some "stock" maps, but TFDB is new for me. So, What I have to use? How it should be set-up? I know this could be bad question on bad place, I looked for tfdb on whole internet but wasn't able to find relevant information. Problem is its TFDB so I presume it has "standartised" settings which are used most TFDB servers. I'm just map-maker. Here is small list of entities I copied and researched. I've removed light_enviroment, shadow_controler (or something) and env_cubemap cos I don't thing its crucial. It seems like general entities. List of entities I copied to my map: info_target (2x) - its named rocket_spawn_red / blue - rockets are spawning here tf_gamerules - it seems this entity stops dodgeball type game when any team wins point_servercommand - its named "dodgeball_commands" and it seems most rules are listed here. For me personally, its complex. I dont know what does what and how it should be set up logic_auto - same as point_servercommand tf_logic_arena - this enables dodgeball AFAIK team_round_timer - sudden death? game_text (2x) - This should be easy, shows text on screen? It has no inputs / outputs... game_round_win - disables dodgeball, again, sudden death? game_end - this entity should finish the map or round... Thanks in Advance!

Hi, I'm the author of tfdb_float, I can give you the source file if you want to. Message me.

[Drixevel]

downloading definately.

[alinayg]

Awesomeeee I'll be working on a simple map.

[asherkin]

Originally Posted by crazy-tony when you increase base damage console will start to either slay ,burn player or make player taunt and so on .. apart from that its working fine ..

Could you send me some server logs along with a plugin list, it must be an incompatibility somewhere.

Originally Posted by aRcTiC thks and what does sm_dodgeball_reflectinc change?

The percentage (sort of) speed increase on the rockets after each airblast.

[alinayg]

Works well on Windows SM 1.3.2 MM 1.8.1.

Suggestions:

Make it so that pyros air blast is 0 ammo. I know that you can make it cost 1 with a hidden cvar but hey /shrugs

Disable respawn so rounds finish.

Rockets shouldn't spawn unless there are two player's on the server.

that's all I can think of atm...

Also Simple working map I made to test, you can add it to your list if you want.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1334246/tf2/...gle_a1.bsp.bz2

[asherkin]

Originally Posted by alinayg Make it so that pyros air blast is 0 ammo. I know that you can make it cost 1 with a hidden cvar but hey /shrugs

I try to avoid ever changing the game's cvars, I believe that the refilling ammo is a better solution. I may add a cvar to change the rate aswell, so that you can cause people that spam airblast to run out of ammo.

Originally Posted by alinayg Disable respawn so rounds finish.

Have you tried on an arena map? It should work, the events used may need changing though.

Originally Posted by alinayg Rockets shouldn't spawn unless there are two player's on the server.

I actually tested it all in the beginning only with myself just airblasting the rockets back. It was still very fun .

Originally Posted by alinayg Also Simple working map I made to test, you can add it to your list if you want.

Looks cool.

[Thrawn2]

Originally Posted by alinayg Disable respawn so rounds finish.

i think this should be handled in an external plugin. Some people want to use this plugin for koth maps, disabling respawn would break normal gamemodes ;)

kinda offtopic: shouldnt it be possible to turn any normal map into an arena map by adding a corresponding logic entity? if so, then a new plugin should be created which then could be combined with dodgeball, resulting in a no-respawn dodgeball.

[alinayg]

Originally Posted by [AAA] Thrawn i think this should be handled in an external plugin. Some people want to use this plugin for koth maps, disabling respawn would break normal gamemodes ;) kinda offtopic: shouldnt it be possible to turn any normal map into an arena map by adding a corresponding logic entity? if so, then a new plugin should be created which then could be combined with dodgeball, resulting in a no-respawn dodgeball.

I'll test out the arena theory tomorrow when i wake up lol.

Haven't looked around for one that does this though, don't know if it exists... yet, might not even need it if the arena logic entity thing works.

Edit: Updated map

Made triangles bigger
Moved infospawn back
Added a few lights

http://www.lostbrotherhood.com/orang...gle_a2.bsp.bz2

[crazy-tony]

Originally Posted by [AAA] Thrawn i think this should be handled in an external plugin. Some people want to use this plugin for koth maps, disabling respawn would break normal gamemodes ;) kinda offtopic: shouldnt it be possible to turn any normal map into an arena map by adding a corresponding logic entity? if so, then a new plugin should be created which then could be combined with dodgeball, resulting in a no-respawn dodgeball.

i also agree that it should possibly be handled by another plugin giving the option of diferent types of maps to be run ..