[MisterNine]

I'll openly admit that I used this plugin to represent the 8 bots constantly present on my server since Valve feels it's not important to have the bots column of the server browser enabled by default. Losing this ability will make me sad.

I don't really browse other servers often but I feel great joy for those whose frustrations will be brought to an end by the death of this plugin.

Like most other aspects of life, WHY and HOW it is being used are more important than the fact that it is. It's slightly ignorant to denounce anything as an absolute evil in every situation. That's not how things work in the world.

[Bilge]

Anyone have the new signature/filter?

[Hi, I'm John Smith]

I just had a fight over at steampowered.com (link) regarding the use of fake clients.

I don't use it myself, as there isn't a working one publicly available for Linux, but I do think this plugin has its purpose, and I really hate those single-minded attitude of those pub players, toward the use of fake clients.

Many of the popular servers have used this plugin to establish their base population, killing this plugin now isn't fair to those startup servers.

Many of my friends are hosting out of their own pockets, because they dislike being abused by kiddo admin, porn spray, and the other pub craps. After the 23/24 updates, many of them are planning to give up on hosting, which might be a better thing, cuz less hassle, and more $$ in their pockets.

Valve should really find a way to improve the server browser, such as adding somethings like the lobby system for L4D/L4D2, to increase the chance of startup/less popular servers, being discovered.

[Afronanny]

Originally Posted by Hi, I'm John Smith Valve should really find a way to improve the server browser, such as adding somethings like the lobby system for L4D/L4D2, to increase the chance of startup/less popular servers, being discovered.

Valve needs to fix the security vulnerabilities BEFORE implementing new features into their games. However, since Valve is a piece of crap when it comes to security, I don't really see this happening.

The clans and server owners that have lots servers, like TF2F, are more likely to get their servers noticed than individual servers. When a person joins one of those servers and like it, they find more servers from the same owner.

[markg]

Originally Posted by dungeon The Orangebox Engine update that was rolled out last night kills this plugin.

didnt seem to kill it for one of the biggest offenders, Lotusclan.com

all their servers still have 24 or 32 fakes.

[DontWannaName]

Its still possible to do, something with this plugin is broken since the update.

[Chaos Llama]

This plugin still works in source (css, etc.) but it doesnt work in orangebox. Looks like either valve released a fix to orangebox only or this plugin is broken for that engine.

[JohnnyOnTheSpot]

Originally Posted by Stutuk This is happen on mine now ive updated and its putting ghoast on my server :S only 3 people on but says 5 and 2 dont have names!!!

This is happening on my servers too. I updated SM to 1.3.1 and MM to 1.8.0 and both my private and pub server are showing "Ghosts", how can I trouble shoot and/or fix this problem?

[dungeon]

Originally Posted by Chaos Llama This plugin still works in source (css, etc.) but it doesnt work in orangebox. Looks like either valve released a fix to orangebox only or this plugin is broken for that engine.

WTF are you talking about, this plugin doesn't work for CSS/HL2DM, never has.

It was written specifically for Orangebox.

[Afronanny]

Originally Posted by markg didnt seem to kill it for one of the biggest offenders, Lotusclan.com all their servers still have 24 or 32 fakes.

Mana's a genius when it comes to maintaining Lotus's servers. Most of Lotus's plugins are custom.


The update didn't break the functionality, the function's signatures have changed, as is expected with an update.